Talk:Zwarte Piet/@comment-85.148.98.219-20170723120919/@comment-43810165-20200929223152

I agree with you, and planning on making the part on racism more neutrally biased (but in the direction of supporting zwarte piet). This article does not consider properly the arguements that are for the keeping of zwarte piet. I hope to change that.

I find it even more sad that this is the biggest part of the article on zwarte piet. Nothing else, just the stupid meaningless debate on the supposed racism of zwarte piet. It's not that someone might have an issue with Piet's looks and properly invistigate the connection and disagree respectfully on points I have the problem with ( I believe the red lips maybe unnecessary).

It's the hideous cognitive dissonance of certain people who take such glee out of upsetting and defaming others, causing petty fights, trampling good traditions while not at all seeking a peaceful resolution or properly researching the topic at hand to see if what they are arguing holds water or not. And most of them are acting like they are experts of dutch culture, when they actually make themselves look foolish to everyone but their listeners. (They remind me too much of the trolls in Poortvliet's work.) Accoding to them, if you dare like zwarte piet, you are in heart a vile arrogant racist and should be ashamed of yourself. That's what I find stupid about this debate.